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Radio Fritz Interview with EV 11/3/96
Post Checkpoint Charlie Berlin Radio Broadcast

INT: Eddie, first of all, let me thank you for allowing us to broadcast this electrifying concert of yours. I was sitting here with my eyes closed and it just blew me away. Thanks.

EV: No problem. How do you say that in German? No problem. Piece of cake. No big deal.

INT: Kein problem. All right.

EV: Kein problem.

INT: Get the show on, Eddie. Let's rock.

EV: Get the show on...OK, let me take my trousers off here and get comfortable in this little cozy van. Thanks for coming everybody tonight...if they're listening out in the parking lot. There's a few people standing right outside we can wave to them.

[translates]

EV: As a child you read about foreign countries and foreign cultures and you don't really think you'd ever see them firsthand, not to mention, play and share songs and words and ideas with them...and I still feel that it's a privilege and so I thank you.

INT: [translates] Eddie, kein problem.

EV: Ok. (laughter) All right then. You're welcome. They've given me the opportunity to play songs, whatever I want. Hey. And I'm going to do just that. The first record we're going to pull a song off of is a band that I don't think is widely heard on any level. This was a record called Get Your Goat and it's a band called Shudder To Think and this song is called "Pebbles."

[Pebbles]


EV: Ok. So being real professional, this is Eddie Vedder telling you that that was a band called Shudder To Think...

INT: Great band, by the way. "I Want To Take You To New York. It's Gonna Be A Big Party." Remember that song from Shudder To Think?

EV: Oh yeah.

INT: Brilliant one, this one too. What happened to the band?

EV: Well, they took me to New York and there was a big party and they were all thrown in jail. (laughter) ...and we're trying to set up a benefit concert to get them out. But, that song is called "Pebbles" and that's off the Get Your Goat record and that's one of their best songs. To be honest, they are recording for Epic Records at this time. Craig, the singer has had to battle with cancer and he's on his way to a full recovery so it would be very exciting to hear what they do next.

[translates]

EV: You're listening to Fritz, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll where anything goes they tell me.

INT: Yeah. That's right.

EV: But also I figured out...so what is that? Fritz has replaced sex? Is that what's happened here in Germany?

INT: Sex on Fritz, you mean?

INT #2: No, has 'Fritz' replaced 'Sex' in the saying, "Fritz, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll."

INT: That's right, yeah.

EV: So lack of... population will go down. (laughter) Record sales will go up. Ok, this next one is from the Ramones. It was from the last record they put out, or one of the last records and this one I'm going to dedicate to Johnny Ramone and his wife who, now that they're retired...they're sitting by the pool. It's called "Strength To Endure."

[Strength To Endure]



[translates]

INT: Eddie, you're a very modest man so I don't think it's too uncomfortable for you in our small van here, is it?

EV: No, this fits my modesty perfectly.

INT: [translates] Super. What's next?

EV: What's next? We're going to play something off this guy. His name's Lou Reed. You know who he is. No need to explain, but maybe I'll remind you of a couple of the great lyrics he's written. One that I think of every day, which is, "Wine in the morning, fancy breakfast at night." Oh man, how does that go? (laughs)

[translates]

INT #2: I'm thinking about the German population going down, no more babies, and still there would be more record buyers, was that? Well, that's what I'm thinking about. Eddie asked me whether I knew how that song went on but probably we could listen to it, right?

EV: Uh, I don't have that one with me but... "all the troubles in this land...but oooh...none of them are mine, I'm beginning to see the light."

INT #2: Ah, yeah.

EV: That's the name of the song. That was an old Velvet Underground song. This is a newer song, a couple of records ago. It's off the record Magic and Loss and it's called, "Sword of Damocles."

[Sword of Damocles]


INT: The Eddie Vedder Radio Show here live from Fritz. Eddie, is it ok if we throw in some of our listeners who would like to speak to you?

EV: I don't like to talk to the common folk. (laughter)

INT: Nah, it's not the common folk, it's our listeners, all right?

EV: Oh, ok then, without a doubt. No problem. Kein problem.

CALLER #1: [speaks in German] Hi Eddie. Congratulations for the (?). Thank you.

EV: Yeah. No problem. It's nice to talk to you.

CALLER #1: My question... [speaks in German]

INT: [translating] Eddie, what would you do if you weren't a musician? What would you do in life?

EV: Well, let's say I worked in a McDonald's, right? (laughter) No, but let's just say...I will tell you I'd be the best McDonald's worker they ever saw.

INT: Why is that?

EV: Well, because I'd take pride in my job. No matter what I did, I would just take pride in my job. I really feel...I don't know...I don't know if it's the same here as in our country but everyone feels like they can't rise above, and that they aren't going to make as much money as their parents and that there's nothing but negative things in their future. But I feel like I'm a living example that if you work as hard as you can and you have some drive and something that you're devoted to, that with hard work you can, you can achieve that...and so, you know if I was, uh, well...I wouldn't work at McDonald's because I can't support McDonald's. (laughs) I think I would be intelligent enough to know that they're doing a fine job at giving everyone diseases and making them overweight by using fancy colors to sell their product, which is meat. But, no matter what I worked at, I still would actually play music because I always loved music and it was very important to me and even if the songs would be heard by myself and my wife and maybe my little kid when he grew up, then I would do that. I mean, then my kid would know who his dad was because you could hear it in these songs so I still would've played music. But no matter what job I had, I would've done so well that I would've ended up the president of the company (laughs) and I hope everyone knows that they can do that.
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INT: OK, I'll try and translate that in a nutshell. (laughter)

EV: Yeah. It's nice to talk to you though and thanks for the question.

CALLER #1: Oh, please, please.

INT: [translates] (laughter)

CALLER #1: [speaking in German] ...and good luck, eh?

EV: Thank you and my next answer will be one sentence. I promise.



INT: (laughter) Hello Stephanie...

CALLER #2: Yes, hi. Hi Eddie. I don't know if you can answer my question in only one sentence. I would like to know what you like about the United States and what you don't like about the United States?

[translates]

EV: Hmmmm. The tough part is what do I like. No, it's... hmmmm...

CALLER #2: Well, maybe I can ask to make it a little bit easier. Did you ever think about moving out of the United States to another country?

[translates]

EV: I think what I like least is the American public is really tuned into their television and it becomes like "Big Brother" and they start believing everything they hear or everything they read through media and so I've thought about moving some place where they had no media and I could be in touch with my own self, the people that were close to me and the earth beneath me.

CALLER #2: Like an island?

EV: Yes, exactly. (laughs)

[translates]

EV: And then, what I like about it is that I have nice neighbors. My friends live there.

CALLER #2: (laughs) I think that's something you could like, yeah. Anyway, thanks.

EV: Stephanie, thank you and I hope you have a really great life.

CALLER #2: Well, yeah, same to you. Ok, bye.

EV: Ok, bye.



INT: Bye. You want to play some music or one more listener, Eddie? What do you want?

EV: Let's try one more. We've got all night for music.

INT: All right. Hello...

CALLER #3: Eddie, my question is how do you think about life, life after death, death and suicide? I ask this question because I am a handicapped person and I...yeah, I'm a handicapped person and...

[translates]

EV: It's a...this is a very intense question and thanks. I think I have an answer. I think that we all have troubles at some time and obviously you have more challenges than most just within your day-to-day... That takes a lot of strength. I think people can learn from others and see that others sometimes have a lot more to deal with than they do, especially when they feel like suicide is maybe their only option...when they feel like there's nothing else and that this is the option they must take. How do I feel about the afterlife? I think that is why suicide is maybe not an option because you don't know and there's plenty of great, great things going on in this world, in the present tense and that it's worth surviving every day and maybe you know this. I think you were asking a question that you knew the answer to.
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CALLER #3: Yeah... I also wanted to know what do you think about life after death?

EV: Yeah, that's what I was saying. I don't think we know. I think it's the great unknown question. There's monks that will tell you that you have 39 days. First they told me that you're reincarnated and I said, "Well, I've always wondered how many days in between do you get?" and they said, 39. (laughs) And I wasn't expecting such a direct answer and they said, "Yeah, you'll have 39 days and then during that time, it's not just time off. You have to deal with karma during that time." So basically that's what I'm doing in my life is trying to make things so I have almost every day of those 39 days as a vacation and I want to have real good karma. I want some time off. (laughter)

[translates]

CALLER #3: Ok, Eddie, I hope I see you back sometimes and yeah, bye.
EV: Thank you. Thanks a lot and good luck to you. And so I think the deal is, three questions/three songs. So now we've got three songs. The first one's going to be The Who off their new live release which is live from I think 1971 and this is a song called, "Sparks." It's an instrumental.

[Sparks]

INT: [speaking in German] Eddie, tell us about why you are playing The Who as one of the last songs tonight? You played the Who tonight together with the Fastbacks.

EV: Well, last night somebody asked me a question. They said, "What is your favorite word?" The first thing I thought is what a stupid, fucking question that is. (laughing)

[translates]

EV: And so, I had to come up with something and actually, I figured it out within a matter of a few seconds. I realized that my favorite word was "Who." I could just stare at that word and feel joy. The band is so important to me and they are still important and they are out in the states playing Quadrophenia, a show called Quadrophenia...and my wife actually, my wife is in a band called Hovercraft ... which there's no vocals and it's space music, trance music, but it's intense and they actually opened for The Who. So my wife opened for The Who, so...

[translates]

INT #2: Just out of interest, the number you played, "Leaving Here," in fact, is an old Who number, right? It's a Motown song, isn't it?

EV: Well, The Who recorded it when they were called the High Numbers in 1963 and that's where I first heard it and then I found out that band called Jimmy Vaughn and the Cadillacs or something recorded it in Seattle so one of the recorded versions was actually a small R&B band in Seattle, which I thought was interesting.

[translates]


INT #2: We're going to hear your band now, aren't we?

EV: Yeah. I mean enough talk. Let's hear some music. This was a rare single given to the fan club during the first year. It's a little song...I remember writing it because Jeff...I was staying with Jeff at the time in his very small apartment and he went to a Christmas party and I didn't want to have anything to do with any kind of party. I was too happy being depressed so... (laughs) I went and had coffee and I went back to the house and I got locked out and I wrote the words to this song.

[Let Me Sleep (It's Christmastime)]

INT: [translates] ...just quickly translated what you told me about how this particular song came about in a very spontaneous manner.

EV: Oh, good. So then I don't have to say anything.

INT: (laughter) You don't have to repeat yourself, no, but we are coming along to another song...

EV: Oh, that was about the last one? I still have to explain the next one? OK. Well, I'm not going to say much but it was Jeff and I and ... we were doing this little radio show and we made it up during the commercial break and it's still one of my...uh. The gentleman next to me asked me if it was funny hearing my voice and there's some songs that, since they were written so quickly, you don't even hear it as your voice. You just hear it as a song that someone else wrote, or something. It's nice. You can just hear it as a song and not something that you worked on -- because you didn't work on it -- it just came out. That's pretty exciting when it happens. It's a minute and 40 seconds long and it's called Bee Girl.

[Bee Girl]

[translates]

INT: Eddie, anything in particular to add to that song?

EV: No, the Bee Girl was...she was this little girl who was 9-years-old in a video and I saw, I saw how...there's no other word for it -- how obnoxious she was and she loved being a star...and I knew it wasn't going to last and my heart went out to her and I was just trying to tell her, "Man, that ain't the most important thing in life. It can't be. You're gonna die." (laughs)

[translates]

INT: What was the name of the song again?

EV: It's called Bee Girl.

[strange tuba music]

INT #2: What happened to our deal? (laughter)

EV: Hey, that was...that's a song. It's Howard Johnson and Gravity. Howard Johnson's a tuba player and it was a tuba song. It was 22 seconds long and for that we thank Howard.

[translates]

INT: Should we get to a couple of questions then while you're looking for a CD to play?

EV: That's a deal.

[translates]

CALLER #4: Hello. Hi Eddie, this is Lutzie.

EV: Hi Lutzie. (laughs) It's Lutzie? How have you been? I haven't talked to you for so long.

CALLER #4: [speaking in German]

INT: Lutzie wonders whether you have an interest in art because she believes art and music are linked together and whether you have expressed yourself artistically. I mean apart from music.

EV: Well, maybe Lutzie is one of the girls who saw us at the Dali exhibit yesterday at the museum. Is that right?

[translates]

CALLER #4: I go there on Wednesday.

EV: Well, I was so inspired. Jeff and I went... We looked at each other and we said, "OK ." When we got back to the hotel rooms we said, "OK. Tomorrow morning we compare art. We both run upstairs right now and do the best art we can with whatever's in the room," and um ....do you want to interpret now?

INT: Sure. [translates]

EV: So I took the hotel stationery and put duct tape on the back so it would be thick like canvas and then... I knew Jeff had water colors and I had nothing so I went to the mini-bar and I grabbed some Campari (lauAnisettesome Annisette, I think, and some tomato juice and some coke. And then I needed a brush and then so I cut some of my hair and tied it on a little stick for stirring your drink and... so yeah, I would say I'm interested in art. [laughter]

INT: [translates] Where is this wonderful piece of art?

EV: It's hanging in my room. (laughs)

INT: [translates] OK?

CALLER #4: OK, thank you.

EV: Thank you, bye.

INT: Bye, Lutzie.


CALLER #5: Hi Eddie. [speaking in German]

INT: [translates] So Martias wants to know, what is it that you're afraid of most in life? Tough questions, eh?

EV: Yeah. No, that's good. What am I afraid of most? Um... [thinking] Well, I'm glad that I don't have an answer. (laughter)

[translates]

EV: (In a deep voice) I am afraid of nothing. (laughter)

[translates]

EV: No, I'm afraid of things like my loved ones being taken away or something like that. I guess I'm also in fear of controlling my destiny. That's...or of not being able to control my destiny. That's why I vote. That's why I speak out when I see something going wrong. I don't want something to go wrong for me and not have anyone speak on my behalf.

INT: [translates] OK, Martias?

CALLER #5: OK, thank you very much Eddie.

EV: Thank you and bye. Now I didn't say anything about Pearl Jam. What did... [laughing] what are you telling these people?

INT: [laughing] I just said that Pearl Jam... I just added in my own words.

EV: I bet you did.

INT: I said that you...the fact that you actually asked young people to actually go out and vote is actually known from the band's side.

EV: OK, that's the truth.


INT: Yes. Ok, last listener, Lissie. Hello, Lissie? Lissie? She's not there.

EV: She's...that's the one thing she's afraid of. She doesn't want to talk to the singer of Pearl Jam. (laughs) That's her biggest fear.

INT: Yeah. Lissie? Derek?

CALLER #6: [speaking in German]

INT: So Derek likes to know what connotations the pictures you put on your booklet have with you. I mean there are hundreds of pictures so he likes to hear stories to those pictures.

EV: OK, well, we'll start with the... If you fold out the CD, we'll stop with the one in the top corner...we'll go through every one.

INT: Oh my God.

EV: (laughs) I think there's a... oh they just handed it to me.

[translates]

EV: There's only 104...144.

INT: [translates] OK, well he's going to fish out his own CD now.

INT: OK, Eddie, you got it in front of you?

EV: I sure do. OK, pick one?

INT: OK, Derek's choosing a picture. (laughter)

INT #2: How about the apple?

EV: Well, I tell you what. If you open it all up, all four panels, do you understand? All four...you can see something in there. I mean you might not be able to now but I'll just tell everybody that...it's called No Code because it's full of code. It's misinformation.
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INT: [translates] [lots of discussion in German]

EV: So ah yeah, we're interested in art. [laughter]

INT: Yeah, Derek got the picture. We all got the picture. OK, Derek.

CALLER #6: [speaking in German]

INT: He loved the concert. Thanks for calling.

EV: Thank you and thanks to Jerome Turner and everybody else in the band for participating.


EV: We're going to get back to music ...


INT: (laughs) Yep.

EV: And I've forgotten what we've chosen because it was a few minutes ago. OK, we're going to try something. Somebody turned me onto this band called Pusherman. The last song on their record which is called Floored is called Floored. It's the title track and this is it.

[Floored]

[translates]

EV: Yeah, yeah, that's what that was. (laughs) Uh, and then this is just laughter to balance it out.

INT: OK.

[recording of strange laughter]

INT: [laughing] So what was that all about?

EV: That was just me recorded in the hotel room last night, looking at my own artwork.

INT: [lots of German]

EV: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people are going to go out looking for the "cartoon record" tomorrow. Come on.

INT: [laughing] What are we going to listen to now?

EV: OK, this is something a little more serious. I would take it very seriously because these guys are going to be in your town. By coincidence, I was going to play them anyway, but they're going to be in town tomorrow night at The Loft, which was the first place that we played in Berlin, so I know how exciting it's going to be and I also know what all the graffiti in the bathroom looks like that they're going to see tomorrow. But this is Sebadoh and this is track five off their latest record called Harmacy.

[Crystal Gypsy]

INT: (interviewer translates) Eddie, we were talking about the fact that you were looking back at the days of The Loft about four years ago, and the 'days old days' as far as concerts are concerned, but you had a pretty exciting experience here yourself only a few days ago and because Pearl Jam had the chance to, for the first time that I know of, perform at the east bloc in Poland. Tell me about how exciting that must have been.

EV: Yeah, it was exciting mainly because of the people and the crowd. So um, you don't know what to expect when you go some place like that and the feelings that you get when you're there might be dark, but the people, they were the most enthusiastic crowd we've seen in years...although tonight was good. too. But it was a special, special night.

INT #2: [translates] I remember, Eddie, you being overwhelmed playing The Loft your first Berlin gig ever. You literally said, "Wow, that's a great response for a band as unknown as we are."

EV: It's still the way I feel. I still don't feel like we're completely known. No, maybe it's just not...maybe it's not that. No matter how known we are, I'll always be overwhelmed. I'm still the same...I'm afraid I'm still the 14-year-old kid that I always was.

INT: [translates] This brings us to our next listener. We have one more listener.



CALLER #7: Hi Eddie. [speaking in German]

INT: [translates] OK, so Eddie, Jorg wants to know...he respects you a lot for your marketing policy. You don't do videos for the last few years. You have very fair entries and the cost of your ticket is half of what other bands charge in the Deutschlandhalle and you're also not doing too many interviews and he respects you a lot for that but he wonders why you do it after you have become a superstar. So, in other words, why didn't you do it right from the start?

EV: Oh yeah. That's a great question. Um, I don't think we understood those things from the start. I don't think we understood that you become a commodity. I don't think we understood that. We thought that that was how you got your songs to be heard and in some ways, maybe it is...and I regret... looking back, there's some things I would change, but I think that a band like Fugazi, who has a lot of these same beliefs... I think they're better because of it. I think we were naive in the beginning and we...and maybe we had faith, in that these things could be good. A video could be an art piece. An interview can be a way of communicating to a large amount of people at once. We lost our faith soon after that and decided to do whatever we could do to get around that.

INT: [translates] So Eddie, I know you'd like to discuss things like that and so I would like to ask you a question. There would have been a role model for you and I'm thinking about Rex H. and the Wipers and Rex. H. always refused to do interviews in the beginning. He said he wouldn't even be on the cover of the record. He wanted music for music's sake, art for art's sake and he'd never done any video at all and he's very shy doing interviews so that would have been a role model back in the late 70s in Portland, next to Seattle.

EV: Yeah, he was right. I feel like I've exposed myself much too much and I might be doing that very thing right now, but sometimes it's nice to talk to people. You know, you don't do interviews because you don't usually get questions as good as the ones that we've had tonight. I mean the last question was great and a few of the other ones were great so I think the way you should do interviews is to actually have real people that listen to your music ask you the questions and not people who are... um...work in music and are tired and cynical.

INT: Yeah, but there are people in music who are still fans.

EV: There are. There are. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm talking about the 90% that I've bumped into. You're right. You're very right.



INT: [translates] One last listener. It's Lissie, the one we lost on the way. Hello, Lissie?

CALLER #8: Hello? Can you hear me?

EV: Ah yeah. She's not afraid after all.

CALLER #8: I was not afraid... [speaking in German]

INT: So we're getting a real discussion right here. Lissie wonders what is so bad about being a superstar. What is so bad about being commercial. She actually wants to know what kind of a hint or tip you would give someone who wants to be a rock star, a superstar in the music biz. So she can't understand, being on the outside, what is so deniable about being a superstar?

EV: I think, I think. (laughs) I think it's... I think it's... If it's everything that you think about when you're a kid, then there is nothing wrong with it. If you... if this is what you dream about and it turned out to be what you thought it was, then there would be nothing to be unhappy about. Do you want to translate?

[translates]

EV: But ... when you get there, it's much different than you ever expected.

CALLER #8: Like what?

EV: People start taking things from you. They take things that are important to you like your freedom and your privacy and the main thing for me, and I don't mean to just blurt this out, but I've had people like... I don't know if there's a German word ...stalking me? Wanting to kill me because they think we're in love or because I write songs about them or something. You know, total strangers and so you can't walk outside the house or you can't... This is not something that you could have ever dreamed about and when it happens to you, it's really crazy. It's something that you could only understand if you were in my shoes and I realize it's hard and I'm... Believe me, I've had so many great experiences because of music. I'm... in the end, I'm thrilled. I'm happy to be here and I think that most of what people think that I'm upset about, I'm not. (laughs) It's no problem. I'm fine. There's no problem, but there's been a couple things that've been a little crazy and I can only ask you to understand. And let's talk to her more after you interpret it, right?
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INT: Yeah, sure. [translates]

CALLER #8: [speaking in German]

[translates]

INT: So Eddie, I kind of answered your question because you answered it before in a way. Lucy wants to know that, after all, are you happy with the position you arrived in?

EV: Lucy, I'm getting...

CALLER #8: Lissie.

INT: Lissie. [speaking in German]

EV: Man, I'm sorry. Lo siento. Spanish.

CALLER #8: Gracias

EV: (laughs) I'm doing my best. I'm thrilled. [laughing] No, really...

CALLER #8: You're more thrilled than you are fucked?

EV: [sounding confused] Than I what?

INT: That's that "beep" word.

INT #2: Oh, the "beep" word.

CALLER #8: Than you don't like it?

INT #2: The f-u-c-k word.

EV: Oh? I'm more thrilled than fucked?

CALLER #8: I mean you like it more than you don't like it?

EV: Well, it's my... Anybody in life has to accept the challenges and we talked to somebody earlier who maybe had a severe handicap and they're rising to it so I must be the biggest asshole in the world if my only handicap is being a quote/unquote "rock star." I better fucking deal with it, you know. It's a good challenge to have and I sound ridiculous, I feel ridiculous saying I'm getting better at it, but...

CALLER #8: But you didn't answer my question so what would you advise to someone who wants to be a rock star?

EV: OK. I would advise... That's right. I would advise...if you're pure about the music, do whatever you can to hang onto the music part of it. Don't get involved in anything else. Be very protective and...and I guess try to enjoy yourself.

CALLER #8: What do you mean with don't get involved with anything else?

EV: Well, be protective with, you know, things like we talked about before. ...with interviews and videos. Don't become a "star" ...

CALLER #8: I got it.

EV: ...because it's a hollow Easter egg or a hollow Easter bunny, you know? There's nothing inside it. Be a... do what you do for music and go out there every night and play as hard as you can and feel good about that. But don't, don't... Don't get lost.
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INT: Quote of the evening. [translates]

CALLER #8: [speaking in German]

EV: Lissie...

INT: Lissie says that a certain amount of stardom always belongs to a person if they get famous.

EV: Yeah, I didn't...I was too naive to know. (laughs) ...and I still am. I'm still just like...just a normal guy. (laughs) I'm just a normal, little guy.

CALLER #8: Of course you are, but that's not what people think of you.

EV: See and that's, yeah, that's not my uh... it's hard to... that's what I've had a hard time with. That is what I've had a hard time...yeah. So, Lissie, thanks for...

CALLER #8: Thanks for talking to me ... have a nice tour.

EV: Yeah, I wish we could have coffee because this is an interesting subject. I could go all night long.

CALLER #8: Want to have coffee?

EV: [laughing] Sure.

INT: [laughing] She's taking your word for it. (interviewer translates)

CALLER #8: Yeah, I got it... [speaking in German]

INT: Thank you, Lissie.

EV: Bye.

INT: [translates] We continue with more music, Eddie.

EV: Yeah, we're going to play just a couple more songs. I don't know what's going to be after this but this one is a John Lennon song and I don't know how it will apply to you but it's called "Jealous Guy."

[Jealous Guy]

EV: All right then. Since it's my radio station and I can choose the last song...well, tonight there's only one that I could play and I'm going to make an ass of myself and just say thanks to everybody. Thank you very much for the opportunity to do this, which is be on the radio with you. To do this, which is play concerts for you. To do this, which is to share our music. It's really a nice thing. So that's pretty good. I pretty much made a fool of myself there. To be honest, we thank you. The only song that we could end with tonight...my little section of Eddie Vedder Radio (laughs) is this next song is by the Ramones and I wish you guys all the best. I hope to see you again. I hope we can do this again.

INT: Kein problem.

EV: OK. Yeah. I hope... kein problem. (laughs) We'll see you guys later, OK?

INT: We'll see you. Thanks, Eddie.

EV: Goodnight. Auf Wiedersehen.

[Rock 'n' Roll Radio, Let's Go]

INT: [speaking in German - introduces Rockin' In The Free World Pearl Jam and Neil Young]

[Rockin' in the Free World]